Cyber Wars

by Eman

When I started talking to Darby about the Cyber Wars I was not expecting it to become such an epic struggle. Good guys, Bad guys and double agents all mixed in with Cyber Storm Troopers and Clones doing battle across the ether even the Nuclear Strike option was used. The details are enough to keep a guy like me up for a week assembling and explaining the drama. Characters emerged from the smoke of battle on the ether plains Cisco_Cool, H_IM4U, The last Remnant, Static, Dogyoke, Neop26, IPSec88, Major9, Joel, Devilssoul, Rene, Xmachine, COmBOY, Zanderzone, Frankblack5, MD80, harry817, eim23x, haigboy, docholiday, MYANMAR, 13worrier, andy_capt, chargerhawk, glow, goodsteed, gordonccie, lethe, mip104, rainbow9810, TheDarkLord, TubiqSuwah, vorlon, Lord Flasheart, Faisal Saleem, Raaki Syler, Screeeem, Killer Yorkies and FS on the Ether Plains of battle Sadikhov, TrainSignal and CertCollection.com. What good can come of stealing peoples IDs and trying to damage their reputations in the virtual world can cause havoc in this case that even rolled out into the street.

The opening salvos of this conflict were being fired for months while individuals tried to provide copy righted materials without permission, test questions and answers for certification exams without regard to ethics or right and wrong. Chargerhawk and Darby joined up to help FS clean up his site known as www.sadikhov.com where some of the users of the site had given it a reputation as a place to go to get questions and answers to exams need for certifications. FS, Chargerhawk, other Moderators, and Darby began working to remove this unauthorized material from the posts and even banning those who continued to repost the material without regard to notifications to stop. For anyone who has legitimately studied and worked for their certifications this may sound like a noble exercise. But to those who feel that memorizing the answers is a legitimate way to achieve certifications this was not a welcome disruption to their cause. So the stage was set for retaliation, reprisals, profanity and mayhem in the ether I like to call,

“Cyber Wars”
(Note from Eman: I apologize for the profanity used in some of these posts and exchanges. I do feel it is important to convey the spirit of those involved and their passion. There is right and wrong and then there is the internet where lawlessness is rampant and a Wild West attitude creates gunslingers like Darby leading posses into battle every day. But remember right and wrong are still black and white regardless of where you were born, live, what you earn or where you worship)

Note: They use proxies with ease, have no qualms stealing their member's information like passwords, email accounts, names/identities, and mostly anything else.

It has been reported than many of their links are for ziddu and is riddled with very hard to clean malware... perhaps Conflicker?

Enter at your own risk and on a sacrificial machine from an obscure location... not your own home or business.

Ethics and morals are not easily found among their virtues.

This is how Cyber-Wars among Hackers are fought, won, or lost...
Not much to it really. It takes persistence, respect, character, and a little charm.
Oh yes, it never hurts to be well prepared and carry a big stick... and of course a pair of trained killer Yorkies...

At one point they claimed only 200 of their 10,000 registered members are real... I guess they use bots.

http://darbylogs.blogspot.com/Saturday, March 28, 2009

Cyber Wars: Status

It looks like the Cyber Wars ended this morning at or about 2:17am.

About 3 days after the "Nuclear Strike" and the notice that the forum:
Certcollection.com had been down reportedly for maintenance by the Site Admins.

A PM was sent at this time (to Darby) stating no terms were requested or even expected and that all wrongs would be corrected and no further harm from Certcollection.com's members would be inflicted upon the Sadikhov.com's members or staff.

Begin Quote from the Mediator: Raaki/Sylar

[QUOTE]iam not a politician and iam the real one .. this is not to negotiate any thing or want anything from you .. .. the was the request from screem's side and i respect him ... for more info you can find with them personally .. i dont like to pm you again but i had to do in this case

Hi Darby Hope you are doing well J , well at 1st I would like to say sorry for what we did towards you or towards sadikhov, in the previous week I noticed that we are transferring from the IT world to streets world, and to be honest I didn’t breed on that , plus my religion don’t teaches me to do that , although I was hurt from your side and especially from FS but ….
I’m moving on Your name will be removed from here at once and if we affected your reputation in any way please tell me what to do to change that image , maybe you are asking why I’m leaving this all , its simple

1)I had a prompt at my work yesterday and now I’m a head manager of IT depart who is managing 55 people so I don’t have time to be honest for those childish acts

2)Me as a Muslim must respect others , as in this way I’m showing for the world that Islam is bad ! and as a guy who is afraid only from god I must stop anything that hurts people , this is the real thing I was taught about in my life

3)I’ll be away from forums for 2 years as I will work in the middle of the sea , how lucky I am :D

In return1) I’m not asking anything , if sadikhov wants to complain about me or the 200 members please tell me in what information I can help you to strengthen your claim J

1) this is the real way we treat people in Islam )

2)If FS doesn’t want to delete any posts , then let him keep them for his own records J , not interested lately for all this stuff , want to use them for his own records or for claiming …etc well be my guest as I stated above ill give him whatever information he needs to strengthen his claim , I’m better than him at the end as I don’t face a bad movement with another bad movement ( Want to hurt people then your are most welcome J , if you don’t want to hurt people you are most welcome as well J )

3)You won’t find any spams as you didn’t before 1 week , this will be forever now and there will be a big announcement in comments about [crapcollection] section informing people not to spam and to respect other forums , anybody want to post here feel free and if you want to post in sadikhov you are also free

4)If you want still talk bad about us like people got afraid from threats , they are hopeless …etc then our reply is thank you J , nobody will force you on what to do , feel free to talk bad or good nobody will even tell you what to do or not to do or even come back to you

5)If you want still report about our links here then also we will tell you thank you J , and if you want any help from our side to help you report we can arrange something like that hehe

Finally I’m very sorry for any harms we did for you or for FS or any other member around the globe, at least I hope you accept my apologizes, I’m not expecting anything in return from you or others but I hope that you forgive us for what we did and the action you want to take towards us as stated above you can take, the reaction will be a big smile from our sides J

no more no less

Regards [/QUOTE]

This is the Notice currently on Certcollection.com's Site that reflects the essence of their formal statement to this effect:

NOTICE» please read as its important Today, 06:30 PM

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The Last Remnant Administrator

Posts: 11 Topics: 2 Joined: Mar 2009

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---NOTICE

Dear all

We noticed lately some new members arriving to our forum from other forums and start talking bad about them, we don’t allow any bad talk towards any other forum even if they are bad or good, if somebody has a comment on any other forum please go to that forum and contact the administrator there directly and feel free to talk about his actions, we are open here just to provide ways to help you pass your exams and grow big!!!!

Regarding the massive threats received from other forums towards us like threaten members by blackmailing them and reporting on our share links the following has been taken:

1) No members are allowed to steal information from other members profiles from other forums , and who did that before ( like the nick name Darby Weaver , LordFlashert and Faisal.saleem ) has been removed at once and we sent a regret message to the real owners of that nickname , who will do later will be warned and banned

2) In return we are expecting everything bad from any other forums who feel a bit jealous from our fast spread over the internet , we recovered our members from their claims and there blackmails ( simply we sent those attackers the message of do what ever suites you , we wont reply back as we don’t have time for your bullshit ) , we also created a new torrent system to skip the part of reporting our RS or 4shared links , so share freely now J and we promise you wont here any troubles from now on ( hopefully )

Finally we aren’t responsible for any spamming on other forums, who wants to invite their friends to here feel free that is your own choice, we aren’t forcing anybody to do that work any more!

Cheers all and have a happy stay

PS : this post will be deleted next month !

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And this looks like the end to the Cyber-War of the Forums. Posted by Darby Weaver at 9:52 AM 0 comments

--- On Sun, 3/29/09, Darby Weaver wrote:

From: Darby Weaver Date: Sunday, March 29, 2009, 10:32 PM

The battle lasted about 7 Days total (March 25th - I launched what I called the "Nuclear Strike" (not the illegal DDOS that I've been accused of) and their site went offline for 4 days.

1. 1st Target - Took out their Cash-Flow - Paypal Account Closed.

2. 2nd Target - Took out their Facebook Account - about 50+ named members of thier "gang" including the Taliban Leaders.

3. 3rd Target - Took out their Shares/Warez - the stuff they are trafficking. (5000+ pages of links) - They are recovering as we speak - lots of work involved.

4. 4th Target - Took out their WebSite - for 3 Hours (Nothing says... Victory like Annihiilation and Site Outage).

5. 5th Target - Took out thier site effectively for 4 Days - Killed their image and credibility - AGAIN.

6. 6th Target - Socially-Engineered their IRC Chat Room. (Rumors of Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt). And launched my own propaganda campaign too.

7. 7th Target - Psychologically Attacked their Admins and Sr. Membership.

8. 8th Target - Sent 200+ Vendors to their Site - Nothing quite says "Fuck You" like a Posse who wants to erase you from the Internet...

9. 9th Target - Well they had 10,000 registered members - So I delivered a challenge to the best and brightest 10,000+ Internetworking Engineers and basically said: "Come and get it" and let the ravenous wolves do what they do best...

10. 10th Target - Turned in the Site Admin for cheating and am waiting for this little "Bullseye" to hit its mark... right between the eyes.

Here's what they are writing about it at certcollection.org: ============================================================

http://certcollection.org/forum/thread-6522.html =================================================

NOTICE

Dear all

We noticed lately some new members arriving to our forum from other forums and start talking bad about them, we don’t allow any bad talk towards any other forum even if they are bad or good, if somebody has a comment on any other forum please go to that forum and contact the administrator there directly and feel free to talk about his actions, we are open here just to provide ways to help you pass your exams and grow big!!!!

Regarding the massive threats received from other forums towards us like threaten members by blackmailing them and reporting on our share links the following has been taken:

1) No members are allowed to steal information from other members profiles from other forums , and who did that before ( like the nick name Darby Weaver , LordFlashert and Faisal.saleem ) has been removed at once and we sent a regret message to the real owners of that nickname , who will do later will be warned and banned

2) In return we are expecting everything bad from any other forums who feel a bit jealous from our fast spread over the internet , we recovered our members from their claims and there blackmails ( simply we sent those attackers the message of do what ever suites you , we wont reply back as we don’t have time for your bullshit ) , we also created a new torrent system to skip the part of reporting our RS or 4shared links , so share freely now J and we promise you wont here any troubles from now on ( hopefully )

Finally we aren’t responsible for any spamming on other forums, who wants to invite their friends to here feel free that is your own choice, we aren’t forcing anybody to do that work any more!

Cheers all and have a happy stay

PS : this post will be deleted next month !

http://certcollection.org/forum/thread-6538.html

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IT would be nice if you explain the truth for all the members

Hi admins

I think it would be great if you explain for the members here what happened in the last 4 or 5 days when the forum was down ,isn't it ?

some people said the forum was under attack from the other forum s@adikhov , others said the forum was reported and you were moving to new host .

I just read the Notice topic here by The Last Remnant and it seems s@adikhov forum made something hurt this great forum as they are so afraid to loose more and more members . so you just made a deal no more talking about the others and they will not do that again !!!

I'm Lost really why no one wanna tell the truth .
we just came here as you promised all members they will treated like the staff team very nice not as before in s@adi, but now you are threatening members by banning them if they talk about the others or have nicknames like there !!! I thought I'm free to have any nickname I want !!!!

I thought you are stronger than that and not from the 1st Battle you will run away like that !!!!

anyway I thought it would be great if you share the info behind the locked doors , not let members ask to know what is going on !!!

have a nice time and hope everything will be ok .

Regards Hi Screeeeeem you Look nice with the new admin nick

1st of all I did not open this topic to have a fight or something like that , suddenly the forum was down without any announcement for 4 days and people at s@adikhov feel so proud they did that !!!!

so I was shocked when I check the forum and saw your 1st topic Notice here http://certcollection.org/forum/thread-6522.html and threaten the members who have same nicks as the S@adi forum or even talk about their forum !!!!!

So that was so obvious there is something behind no one wanna talk about . and that make what Sa@di people talk about won the war

You know better than me who were those who took the others nicks from there to here .

for me If I have my nick in any forum does it mean no one can use this nick in any other forum !!!!

No way people are so free to do whatever they want use my nick as you want if you think that will make you so happy .

You know why people left from there and come here only because of FREEDOM they feel like they are with their IT family here and the staff team are so friendly and nice not so bossy like there .

so I think you know well why I'm here sure to learn , help,share, and yes to fight as well that is so healthy to make your brian free from things you see in th IT world make you sick ., after that your Brian is ready to absorb as much info as you feed it .

anyway as I said before really I do not care about the other forum or the fight but really what made be upset is the timing you announce your notice , and the long downtime ( If no attacks as you said ) without any announcement before that .

all members and guests was so upset from all the rumors here and there .

at last I do not complain as the others said but I just think loudly , good luck with the great nice forum and hope everything will be OK as before .

PS : I like Darby nick and will have it as a nick clap clap woooow very nice talk the last ( Screeeeeem ) hope all replied are happy now , Ok all I'm the wrong one here ( OMG cannot believe this )

By the way I Tried to use the new torrent feature by uploading IE WB V 5.0 torrent But could not .

not started yet, Am I right ??

Regards

(From Darby)

The battles are fought, won, lost, or truce...

However, the moral, ethical, and legal implications are still far from resolved.

One team trying to erase it's past and start anew.

One team trying to build its reputation and stature and literally become the "Robin Hood Forum" of the 21st century... Taking from the "Rich" and giving to the "Poor".

Other forums are either neutral or fodder and are used for one side or the other...

The moral imperatives of this conflict has spread far and wide, globally in fact, and even major torrents sites are starting to think and other large forums with hundreds of thousands of users are being impacted by these Cyber-Showdowns or even the mini Cyber-Duels.

The only way for "Evil" to triumph is for "Good Men" to stand idly by and do nothing.

What can you do? Take a visit to these dungeons of despair and places of ill-repute - report things that you do not like... and help clean up the Wild West that the Internet is famous for.

Some people have mixed feelings. Some like that they can get anything for free anytime and anywhere.

Others are being financially impacted by it.

Which are you?


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